Crypt Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 as a tester for upcoming version of adium and an avid poster on their forums, there is no way you can port adium over. sure you have libgaim but almost all the coding is objective c which is impossible to bring over to pc unless some type of of object oriented language which has the same functions as objective c was created then you could do it, but adium's code is getting more intwined with mac only applications such as the growl notification system, and quicksilver. you also not be able to have any adium xtras for the application if it were ported over becuase the dock icons, and scripts are almost all applescript based alont with the message views and adium duck icons not being recognized as a format on pc's. Link to comment
zondajag Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 thanks for bursting our bubble crypt.....party pooper! Link to comment
latinoV1 Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 as a tester for upcoming version of adium and an avid poster on their forums, there is no way you can port adium over. sure you have libgaim but almost all the coding is objective c which is impossible to bring over to pc unless some type of of object oriented language which has the same functions as objective c was created then you could do it, but adium's code is getting more intwined with mac only applications such as the growl notification system, and quicksilver. you also not be able to have any adium xtras for the application if it were ported over becuase the dock icons, and scripts are almost all applescript based alont with the message views and adium duck icons not being recognized as a format on pc's.Well are their any substitutes for all that is mac related but on the pc? I mean I don't know much of objective c but I do know java is an object oriented language so I have no idea if that would help. As for the intertwined for mac apps then maybe sacrifices have to be made. I mean on the pc we now have snarl that is like growl and we do have some programs like quicksilver on the pc but not to the same degree of functionality. As for thee extras I guess that would be dependent on the actual code used for the pc version, if there ever were to be one. Anyways I guess a port is asking too much unless there could just be a stand alone pc chat client that is...I guess you could say inspired by Adium. Like taking what we like from adium and using those great features into a newer pc client. Oh well it's 6 am and I'm just thinking out loud don't mind me. Link to comment
abbaZaba Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 this is NOT going to happen! just because there are some programs for windows that are growl-/quicksilver-like does not mean they're the same! and I think crypt knows what he's talking about when he says it would be impossible to bring obective c coding to windows. Link to comment
ultimate540 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 this is NOT going to happen! just because there are some programs for windows that are growl-/quicksilver-like does not mean they're the same! and I think crypt knows what he's talking about when he says it would be impossible to bring obective c coding to windows.That was very constructive... :slant: Link to comment
latinoV1 Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 abba you should relax a bit. I never once said that crypt was wrong nor did I say that what I suggested was the way to replace what is for adium on the mac. I only gave suggestions but truthfully i have no idea if those suggestions are even possible. It's just discussing the idea that's all.But since it seems everyone is so against it I guess I shall stop discussing this and settle for trillian. Link to comment
mrhotwings Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 never say never Link to comment
zondajag Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 yep im going to go for trillian as well....do you know where i can get a contact list skin that is in the bezel style?....without the titlebar and scroller? Link to comment
Mgs0008b221 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 yep im going to go for trillian as well....do you know where i can get a contact list skin that is in the bezel style?....without the titlebar and scroller?I'd also like to know where to find one. Link to comment
mrhotwings Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 i across instructions on how to remove the scroll bar in contact listbut dont remember how did it lol, lemme go look around Link to comment
liquidplasmaflow Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hey! Let's all port Adium to C#!But seriously... this is a big project; Adium being coded in Objective C doesn't help. Perhaps someone with a LOT of free time could work on rewriting it for Java or C#? It's a big project, but that would bring one hell of a user base in to see this. Link to comment
Mgs0008b221 Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hey! Let's all port Adium to C#!But seriously... this is a big project; Adium being coded in Objective C doesn't help. Perhaps someone with a LOT of free time could work on rewriting it for Java or C#? It's a big project, but that would bring one hell of a user base in to see this.Not java. Java ir horrible and slow, not to mention glitchy and bloated. If someone does this they need to do it right. Link to comment
liquidplasmaflow Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Agreed; the only language I can see that's similar to OC is C#... but that's a .NET language, so it would require just as much porting work, not to mention having to use the .NET Framework. And what's this about no OC compliers for PC? Is that true? Link to comment
RiGhTuShOoK Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 i did like the idea of re engineering adium to work with miranda, is that possible at all? making miranda act like adium, skins and all. Link to comment
ultimate540 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Anyone who could pull this of would get a ridiculous amount of thanks. Adium is an amazing messenger. We all know the faults of all other windows messengers and if Adium was even half decently ported to windows I would switch in an instant. Link to comment
herd Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Agreed; the only language I can see that's similar to OC is C#... but that's a .NET language, so it would require just as much porting work, not to mention having to use the .NET Framework. And what's this about no OC compliers for PC? Is that true?Nonsense. There is the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC), CodeWarrior and the GnuStep win32 packages for that issue. Link to comment
Nicesnake Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Anyone who could pull this of would get a ridiculous amount of thanks. Adium is an amazing messenger. We all know the faults of all other windows messengers and if Adium was even half decently ported to windows I would switch in an instant.On start sorry for my english. I think you don't know what you talking about. Did you ever used Adium ? I have posiblity to compare AdiumX with windows messengers (i have both mac & windows) Nothing amazing is in it. Adium crashes, service of some protocols is just horrible. Miranda can do the same and can look almost the same and even better (clist modern) , but i know it is a little less user friendly.One thing i really like in Adium X is the duckie in dock.I hope that someone will make adium duckie docklet for rklauncher.For Miranda and/or Trillian Link to comment
liquidplasmaflow Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Well, it's always expected that a program like Adium or Trillian isn't going to work quite as well as the original clients. Link to comment
kaloyster Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Reality: If it's done by people, it CAN BE DONE by people. Link to comment
Timan Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 On start sorry for my english. I think you don't know what you talking about. Did you ever used Adium ? I have posiblity to compare AdiumX with windows messengers (i have both mac & windows) Nothing amazing is in it. Adium crashes, service of some protocols is just horrible. Miranda can do the same and can look almost the same and even better (clist modern) , but i know it is a little less user friendly.One thing i really like in Adium X is the duckie in dock.I hope that someone will make adium duckie docklet for rklauncher.For Miranda and/or Trillian See you just named the worst part about adium, is that loud quacking duck that drives you insane. Glad its a program that lets you customize it like mad. Link to comment
Nicesnake Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Personaly i use Dark Vadium dock icon or Oscar the Grouch duck For me its really nice to have something "live" in dock Link to comment
Astyanax Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I would really like to see a plugin for Trillian like IEView. That is THE only thing stopping me from using it. Though an adium for windows would be great. But you will need a nice big team, either that or someone very tallented Link to comment
Nirodha Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Why are you people still debating Adium for Win when Miranda has nearly all, and perhaps exceeds, it's capablilties already? I realize Miranda can be a bit of a pain to configure, with all it's plugins, options and whatnot, but it's quite worth the effort if one takes to time to do so.It one wants all of Adium's cute icons, message and clist styles, those can be ported, as quite a few already have.Just my humble opinion... Link to comment
abbaZaba Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 miranda is nowhere near adium or even trillian. it lacks basic functions. no away messages and last time I used it, you can't even order your contact list how you want. Link to comment
latinoV1 Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Why are you people still debating Adium for Win when Miranda has nearly all, and perhaps exceeds, it's capablilties already? I realize Miranda can be a bit of a pain to configure, with all it's plugins, options and whatnot, but it's quite worth the effort if one takes to time to do so.It one wants all of Adium's cute icons, message and clist styles, those can be ported, as quite a few already have.Just my humble opinion...Maybe because Miranda is not that good. Yes it has great skinning and plug-ins but it's still very lacking in features and at times can be buggy. Also I've found that it's not worth the effort when I realize I can't file transer, direct connect, see away messages/icons/profiles/etc. It's annoying and really forces me to stop using it. Link to comment
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